Country Confessions, Festival Funnies, and Vinyl Ventures: Journeying Through Music Madness
What happens when you mix comedy, music, and a touch of absurdity? You get another unforgettable episode of the MT Alternative Podcast! Ever wondered if Europeans have a secret love affair with American country music? We kick things off with our signature banter about zippers and camouflage cans before diving headfirst into the peculiar differences between the American and European music scenes. From our love for bands like Dirty Honey to pondering the universal language of music, this episode is a rollercoaster of laughs and insights.
Get ready to explore the vibrant contrasts between European festivals and American concerts. We discuss the unique challenges faced by smaller bands in the digital age and reminisce about the timeless joy of vinyl records. You'll hear our takes on the stricter EU regulations versus America's freer approach to content and copyright, all while keeping things light-hearted and entertaining. We promise you’ll never look at music festivals the same way again.
Lastly, we navigate through the ever-evolving technological landscape of the music industry. Virtual concerts, holographic performances, and social media platforms like TikTok and Patreon are transforming how artists connect with fans. We highlight the rise of independent artists and the pressing issues of royalties and environmental concerns tied to touring. And of course, we sprinkle in our award-worthy humor to keep you chuckling from start to finish. Tune in to laugh, learn, and question everything—except us, because we’re obviously flawless.
00:11 - American vs. European Music Industry Diversity
12:19 - The Music Industry
21:10 - Technological Transformation in the Music Industry
30:57 - Casual Chat About Various Topics
42:25 - Award-Worthy Music Industry Humor
American vs. European Music Industry Diversity
Speaker 1Ladies and gentlemen , welcome to yet another groundbreaking , earth-shattering , totally life-altering episode of the MT Alternative Podcast , the only show where Mike and Tom somehow manage to hold onto microphones despite having absolutely nothing valuable to say . Yes , folks , they're back . Like that rash that never quite goes away , we've got a packed show for you today . If by packed you mean filled with the usual nonsense , thinly veiled political rants and tangents that even they don't understand , Buckle up , because this is going to be the audio equivalent of a long awkward conversation with your in-laws . Isn't that right , mike and Tom ? Just pure magic Every time .
Speaker 2Hello , hello . Welcome back to another episode of the MP Alternative Podcast .
Speaker 3How are we're doing , guys so ?
Speaker 2so so , buttons , so what ? No buttons oh , no buttons wait a minute . Okay , I'm confused why are you confused ?
Speaker 3that's first we started out hello , hello and now all of a sudden , no buttons we're not going there I don't know , I just wondered , wondered why I have zippers . Oh , okay , that's all right then that's cool . Yeah , All right excellent . I'm cool with zippers , so Anything with a hundred teeth that holds back a monster I'm okay with . What would you know about a monster ? Yeah , what has a hundred teeth and holds back . A monster .
Speaker 2A zipper Zipper .
Speaker 3My zipper . What the ?
Speaker 2hell are you drinking ? What the hell is all over that ? Can my fingerprints Camouflage . Are you trying to hide your can ?
Speaker 3No , why does it ?
Speaker 2got camouflage on it .
Speaker 3It's for hunters .
Speaker 2Oh , so you're drinking a beverage while you're out there hunting ? Not while During .
Speaker 3Sure .
Speaker 2Oh , all right that doesn't sound really safe .
Speaker 3Oh , so now we've got to be safe hunting .
Speaker 2First it's safety week at work and now we've got to have safety hunting . You seem to really get into that safety crap at work with your beeping of your damn horn .
Speaker 3That's fun .
Speaker 2That's not fun for people to have to listen .
Speaker 3Okay , why ?
Speaker 2It's annoying .
Speaker 3Therefore , I'm having fun . You're welcome Next Dick .
Speaker 2Next .
Speaker 3Yeah , what other bitch and complaint can I crush and maim for ?
Speaker 2you , we'll just leave it alone at that .
Speaker 3All right , we'll continue our it alone at that , all right .
Speaker 2We'll continue our musical journey .
Speaker 3I love music . Music is a universal language , if you know what I mean .
Speaker 2It is .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 2Explain .
Speaker 3It's just part of the song .
Speaker 2Oh , so you're just copying other people .
Speaker 3Well , no .
Speaker 2Yes .
Speaker 3I didn't copy anybody , I just remembered what they said .
Speaker 2Plagiarism .
Speaker 3No no .
Speaker 2Okay , okay , biden .
Speaker 3Oh , oh , wait a minute . Now you're saying Biden was a plagiarist .
Speaker 2I may have heard a few things .
Speaker 3Okay , first off , to be a plagiarist , you have to remember what someone said before . He doesn't even remember what he had for freaking breakfast . Someone wrote it down for him , so Plagiarism . He wrote it down for him because he doesn't know how to write first off , and even if he did , it wouldn't make any sense . How do you ?
Speaker 2know he doesn't know how to write . He doesn't know how to write . Who told you he doesn't know how to talk ? Okay , anyways , back to music Sidetrack . We're going to discuss the difference between music in America and music in Europe and other countries .
Speaker 3Oh , so question .
Speaker 2I'll try to give you an answer .
Speaker 3When are you going to Europe ?
Speaker 2europe I would love to go to europe and go to some of those music festivals . I'll be honest when you're going I just know the music I hear from over . That way I get into more than uh again the cookie cutter shit over here again . Not that there's not any good bands , but but nobody's showing them . You've got to go dig for them .
Speaker 3Yep , you've got to get out and look for them like we have . We found some pretty cool bands .
Speaker 2Oh , they fall in our lap . That's awesome .
Speaker 3Love Dirty Honey .
Speaker 2Sometimes YouTube knows what they're doing .
Speaker 3I actually listen to Dirty Honey , and I like that .
Speaker 2They're very bluesy .
Speaker 3Yes .
Speaker 2Very bluesy rock and I do like that too .
Speaker 3Anyway .
Speaker 2Shout out to Dirty Honey .
Speaker 3Hey , dirty , honey .
Speaker 2Alright , here's the ways they're different . Market size and influence . The American music industry is the largest in the world , giving it considerable influence over global trends . American artists often dominate global charts and genres like pop , hip-hop , country have strong roots in the US . Yeah , oh , I thought maybe you wanted to add something , just yeah , okay . Well , european music industry . Europe is more fragmented , with various countries having their own dominant markets , such as UK , germany and France . While some European artists achieve global fame , the industry is most localized with different countries favoring different genres .
Speaker 3Yeah , I mean , do people in Europe actually listen to country music ?
Speaker 2That's a good question . I wonder , I mean that's a really good question . I'm sure they do . I'm sure there's some people that do . I wonder , I mean that's a really good question , I'm sure they do , I'm sure there's some people that do .
Speaker 3I would like to hear they have places in Japan that play country music . Okay , what I would like to hear , though , is the language singing .
Speaker 2Chattahoochee , they probably say it in English .
Speaker 3Yeah , no , no , no , that's yeah .
Speaker 2No , no , no , that's not English .
Speaker 3No , no , it's not .
Speaker 2But they'll play a lot of music .
Speaker 3I put on .
Speaker 2MTV from other countries and it's the same stuff we see .
Speaker 3I bet it's like when we listen to Freddy Fender . Yeah , see .
Speaker 2We hear it in Spanish Stuff like that .
Speaker 3Yeah , I know , I know my stuff .
Speaker 2What a strange question , but a good question , all right . Cultural diversity . Here we go again . American music industry Poor kids . While diverse , the US music scene is heavily influenced by mainstream pop culture , which tends to be homogenized . There are strong focus on commercial , often driving artists to appeal to broad audiences . See , that's that whole bullshit again . Yes , european , the Europe's music industry is more culturally diverse due to its many countries with distinct language traditions and musical style . This leads to a wider variety of genres . On maintaining cultural identity , the music genres in America , genres like pop , hip-hop , rock and country dominate . Hip-hop , in particular , has become a major cultural force in the US over the past few decades . This is true , you hear a lot of it .
Speaker 3NFL pop .
Speaker 2NFL pop .
Speaker 3You know what it's called now the Taylor Swift craze , oh yeah , let's see Europe has a stronger presence of electronic music especially in countries like Germany , sweden and the Netherlands .
Speaker 2Classical music also has deep roots in Europe , influencing contemporary genres in more subtle ways Symphonic rock , nightwish , Epica , those type of things . All right , now the industry structure is a little different . The industry is highly commercialized in the us , with a focus on major record labels like universal , warner and sony . Yeah , damn right . The rise of streaming spotify , apple music has also been heavily influenced by american companies , which we spoke about earlier on another podcast . Uh , the european music . While major labels also operate in Europe , there's a stronger presence of independent labels , especially in countries like the UK and Germany . European artists often have more creative control , partly due to different funding models , including state subsidies in some countries . Thoughts Goes back to what we say about cookie cutter over here .
Speaker 3Yeah , it's all the same . Okay , I know you do this cringe when I bring up American .
Speaker 2I fuck around with you . You know that .
Speaker 3I know , but let's think about this it's , and lately been , more country-based , that's fine . They've brought in more country . Why ? Because all these kids have these idols that they're trying to mimic and they , oh , they sound like this , they sound like her , they sound like him . Oh , this is bad . That's why these kids are , because it's cookie-cutter . It's what people it's oversaturated . Exactly . Show me something different . Show me something different , give me someone different .
Speaker 2Give me an alternative .
Speaker 2Again and I know it's going to seem like I'm beating a dead horse on this , but the band the Warning , they have their own sound . I think that's why so many people are drawn to them . Yes , three girls , a band , rock band . But if you listen to their lyrics , their music , it's a different sound and it brings back the word alternative . Well , to me it goes back to the 80s . I'm not comparing it to the 80s because they got a lot of influences in their music , right , but it's different . It's like when Van Halen first came out you were like or Boston , when you first time you heard Boston , more than a feeling , it's like holy crap , what the hell is this ? That kind of music , those kind of songs ? I'm sure there's country songs like that , that grabbed you by the hoo-ha .
Speaker 3Yeah , I've got one right here in my mind . I'm good at drinking beer .
Speaker 2I know that .
Speaker 3Yeah , that's the name of the song .
Speaker 2Oh , oh , oh .
Speaker 3It highlighted a lot of my life .
Speaker 2Who sings this ?
Speaker 3See there once again . I do not know . I know the song .
Speaker 2I drink a beer .
Speaker 3I'm not good at .
Speaker 2I drink alone .
Speaker 3Oh , I know that one too , unfortunately .
Speaker 2Oh , George Thorogood .
Speaker 3Yeah , every song he has is the same , the same , pretty much .
Speaker 2It's got that , let's see .
Speaker 3I mean , it doesn't take an idiot to write something like that .
Speaker 2No , but the lyrics are different . Wait a minute . A C D C .
Speaker 3Yeah , like that no , but the lyrics are different when it's .
Speaker 2ACDC Back in Black . They get the same sound , but they're good . Yep , and I don't mean every song sounds the same , but let's be realistic . Yeah , and I'm not knocking ACDC .
Speaker 3Everybody knows what we're talking about .
Speaker 2Everybody loves ACDC too .
Speaker 3Yes , exactly Pink Floyd , Alright .
Speaker 2I want to talk about difference in , because this one really kind of ticks me off . The music festivals and live performances . Okay , you watch some of these things now , maybe back in the day the U ? S festival in California . Europe . It seems to have these awesome festivals , but different genres . They don't cater to one thing . It's not a big . You want ? I talked about it last podcast podcast a couple ago with the phones .
Speaker 2Right you watch a lot of the European festivals . You don't see people with their phones . They're in there enjoying the moment , right it's ? It's not a big deal . There's a lot of camaraderie . Camaraderie there , people just having fun getting together .
Speaker 1It's a whole different thing .
Speaker 2It's me , me , me . Look at me . I'm going to tape this , I'm going to put this on social media .
Speaker 3Yeah , look what you didn't get to go watch and I did blah , blah , blah . It's like they don't .
Speaker 2You went there .
Speaker 3First off , first off , and post proof that your friends all think you're a liar anyway . So oh well , who cares Exactly ? Move on .
Speaker 2Here we go . The US hosts massive festivals like Coachella , lollapalooza and Southwest , I think , which are major industry events . I think that's more like Tronic Music won yeah .
Speaker 2Tech no
The Music Industry
Speaker 2Essex . European music in Europe is known for its extensive festival scene , with events like Glastonbury Tomorrowland and Rock Idol . European festivals often have more diverse lineup , reflecting what I just said , reflecting the continent's culture of diversity . Let's see how the distribution and promotion goes in American music . In America , there's a significant focus on digital platforms and mainstream media . Social media , streaming and radio play are critical for an artist's success . European , while digital platforms are also important , traditional media like television and local radio will play a significant role . European artists may rely more on touring and live performance for exposure , which I totally love .
Speaker 3Right .
Speaker 2Any questions or any responses to that shit ? I'm just saying . Are you seeing the ?
Speaker 3differences , though there are a lot of differences . It seems to me that America is more about the money . It's all about what can I get from you ? It's true .
Speaker 2And that's just like bands and everybody .
Speaker 3Right and Europe is like . Most of their are free . A lot of theirs are free .
Speaker 2They're either free or they're reasonably priced compared to prices over here .
Speaker 3Yeah , over here you see four or five bands . You're going to pay over a hundred bucks .
Speaker 2Oh , you're going to pay a lot more than that .
Speaker 3Really , oh yeah , see , I've not been to a band Like Rockville Daytona , you're spending hundreds , if not thousands to go , and I have a buddy that's a huge Eagles fan and one of your lists had the Eagles on one of them and they are a great band . Still , even yet , without a couple of the people .
Speaker 2Not a lot of them .
Speaker 3But anyway .
Speaker 2I think Don Henley is the only original player .
Speaker 3They spent so much money . I think Don Henley is the only original player they spent so much money , I think $900 a ticket .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , if not more .
Speaker 3And he took his dad to this concert in Charlotte for $900 a piece . I'm like man , but they were both . And now his dad's gone and he's got this sentimental thing for it . That's great , and I would pay hundreds of dollars for that myself .
Speaker 2For that moment with your dad and stuff or your mom , whatever .
Speaker 3Who's got yeah ?
Speaker 2Exactly Tom . Yeah , but anyway I thought that was the cool part about it , but anyway , I still think America is more money Money-driven .
Speaker 3Well , it's not so much the artists .
Speaker 2Money-driven . It's sad . It's not so much the artists .
Speaker 3The artists get screwed most of them , yeah , all the way around .
Speaker 2There's some that just want , just for the money .
Speaker 3In the past . As we said , they get screwed from this side and that side . Look , we're drawing a crowd for you to sell your concessions , for you to sell your seats , you to sell your concessions , for you to sell your seats , for you to fill your and cover your costs of all the insurances and stuff you've got to buy . We're drawing a crowd so you can cover this . Why do you need for ?
Speaker 2me . Here's where the problem lies they're not drawing the crowd . The younger bands , they're there to fill spots . It's the bigger people Like I go to see . Let's just throw up a band . Let's see Tom Petty's playing somewhere , right , all right , tom Petty's great . There's always that Local band . Maybe there's a good band that opens , but there's always . Sometimes there's three bands , and that's usually a local band . They pick up somewhere .
Speaker 3Right . Usually a local band they pick up somewhere .
Speaker 2That's where I think it's . If you're U2 and you're traveling , fine , you should give up 5 , 6 , 7% of your merchandise Yep , because , yes , they're drawing a crowd . A band like U2 makes a lot of money touring , oh yeah . So there , I can understand some of it , but it's the smaller bands with the smaller venues . That's where it bugs me . But you know it's up for debate on everything . Let's see what regulations and policies they have . In America , the industry is less regulated in terms of content and a strong emphasis on freedom of expression . However , it is also more litigious , especially regarding intellectual property . European Different countries have varying levels of regulation , with some countries having quotas for local content on radio and TV . The EU also has specific regulations around digital music distribution and copyright . Wow , Wow that's crazy , I did not know that .
Speaker 2I just learned something there that's crazy . Some crazy-ass stuff is right . So basically we could say right now , unfortunately and not important , streaming is dominant right now it really is streaming is the dominant force . Remember the days where you could buy that album or that 45 . You couldn't wait to get home and crackle right before that song .
Speaker 2You were waiting to hear that and you could just hear everything . And then it went to . Once it cassettes were fine , but eight tracks . We had those two albums , but then CDs came out and I'm like , yeah , but you listen to it . And then you listen to the album . It's so compressed .
Speaker 3Oh , I know .
Speaker 2You miss out on certain elements of the music . Well , vinyl is making a resurgence .
Speaker 3I see that For years now it has been .
Speaker 2And pretty reasonably priced . But you gotta figure Albums how they're made . It's an oil type based product and , thanks to , once again , biden administration , things are high . So you're not gonna pay anywhere from $20 to $25 an album . But hey , you paid $10 back and whatever . So Exactly . Some of them are even more than that . Now , live music and touring helps out .
Speaker 2Yeah yeah , and I notice a lot of bands like the Warning Nightwish , your band there we talked about last week . Oh yeah , these people are all better . I like Studio . They really are . I like studio . Now there's some bands I've gone to see and I go what the hell . This doesn't sound anything like the album ?
Speaker 3Are these the ?
Speaker 2real people . This sounds like they came to play music .
Speaker 3Bo Cephas . I have to tell you I was so very disappointed . I was expecting Bo Cephas .
Speaker 2And who'd you get drunk ? I got Bo and Bo Cephas . And who'd you get Drunk ? I got Bo Come on man .
Speaker 3What the hell happened ? Oh , I don't know . Somebody killed a chicken and it was over from there . I don't know . I heard him squawking on the stage .
Speaker 2Did he come up shit-faced ?
Speaker 3I just , it was not .
Speaker 2It was terrible .
Speaker 3It was horrible . Oh , that sucks , but thank God 38 Special and the other bands and everything .
Speaker 2I like 38 Special .
Speaker 3Yeah , and they were there and of course we all went to see Southern Rock and it's Skinnered Okay . We all went to see Skinnered . I helped you out there . Yeah , I know it's getting a little late . I get it we can edit . No problem , thank you no problems .
Speaker 2Thank you , no problems , but let's see .
Speaker 3I'm starting to sound like Milton .
Speaker 2Berle .
Speaker 3No , that's yeah . What was that dude's name ? Foster Brooks . Foster Brooks , People are going to be going .
Speaker 2Who the hell is Foster ? Google it . Folks Google it , check him out . Funny as hell . So , anyways , back to the live music and touring . The music sector is rebounding after COVID now , thank God . Shows with no shows suck . Let's see Severely impacted tours and festivals . Major artists are returning to the road with 2023 and 2024 . Seeing some of the largest and most lucrative tours in history Challenges , however , rising costs , ticket pricing issues and the ongoing debate over dynamic pricing models . That's the problem , right there where you pay your money .
Speaker 2Yep pricing models , and Ticketmaster has a monopoly on this shit .
Speaker 3Well , there is no Ticketmaster anymore .
Speaker 2We'll talk about that crap another time .
Speaker 3You know , okay here , yeah , another time I'll bring this up right now . I want you to remember we need to go to this Tickets to go to sporting events .
Speaker 2Right .
Speaker 3If you don't have internet access , you're not going .
Speaker 2Yeah , you're kind of fucked you can't print out your ticket .
Speaker 3That sucks to people who don't know anything about internet .
Speaker 2That's discriminatory .
Speaker 3I think so .
Speaker 2Well , go to your library , they have computers .
Speaker 3Okay , if I don't have Internet to begin with .
Speaker 2I don't know how to use it . I guarantee you everybody's got a damn cell phone .
Speaker 3Good point , not everybody .
Speaker 2Well , pretty much everybody .
Speaker 3Well , have you ever looked at the Whitakers in West Virginia ?
Speaker 2Yeah , and I don't know that one house looks like it's getting pretty stocked up with a lot of good technology there . Yeah , anyway , anyway . So okay , now days two , we have the emergence of AI technology . Oh , we love AI . We do love AI , good old .
Speaker 3Troy .
Speaker 2Certain age . Leave Troy alone . Man , all right . Ai is increasingly being used in the music production , from generating beats to even composing entire
Technological Transformation in the Music Industry
Speaker 2tracks . Oh , wait a minute . Now . That's all well and good , that's fine , you and me screwing around doing stuff . I'm going to pay this guy that got on the computer and did the same thing I could have .
Speaker 3I'm asking a question here too .
Speaker 2Raise your hand and did the same thing I could have . I'm asking a question here too .
Speaker 3Oh , you didn't , no , but what you just said , makes a great point .
Speaker 2What's that ?
Speaker 3Back in the 80s we all had a fit over a couple of guys who lip synced Billy .
Speaker 2Manili yeah no , it's Billy Vanilli . It's Billy Vanilli . We won't go back to that again .
Speaker 3But anyway , what's so different ? Oh , now it's all right to do .
Speaker 2It's all right , now it's okay . Well , now it's sort of like They'll probably still sing , but they have the song made up , the lyrics made up for them .
Speaker 3They can put the music in . It's sort of like I'm defunding the police . Oh , I never said that .
Speaker 2Okay .
Speaker 3Why are we going back to camel toe again ? I'm just saying it's the same thing , oh .
Speaker 2I know , but anyways , any . No , thank you . Okay , this is sparking conversations about the role of technology and creativity and potential implications for human artists . Virtual and augmented reality , vr and AR technologies are being explored for virtual concerts . Yeah , have technologies are being explored for virtual concerts ? Yeah , have you heard this ? A virtual concert ? Let me finish and we'll go in An immersive music experience offering new ways for fans to interact with their favorite artists .
Speaker 3Yes , Are you kidding ? Me , so now it's not bad enough that I need a , you can see a hologram of your favorite artists .
Speaker 2They could be here . See a hologram of your favorite artists . They could be here , they could be there , they could be everywhere all at once doing a concert . A hologram . They did this with ABBA , they did this with Dio . No , I'm telling you , why are they ? I'm going to go see Dio . No , this is a hologram . Yeah , see , there's a band , but he's a hologram .
Speaker 3Yeah , that's crazy .
Speaker 2That's really crazy .
Speaker 3I love Dio .
Speaker 2I do love Dio , but no , no , no , I'm not paying money for that shit . Yeah , here's another social media influence that helps out bands . Tiktok has become a powerful tool for the music discovery , with viral trends of the platform often propelling songs to the top of the charts . This has changed the way the hits are made . Many artists and labels are now focusing on creating TikTok-friendly content . I'll be honest I don't have TikTok at all and I don't care to get TikTok .
Speaker 3TikTok-friendly Psst .
Speaker 2I don't like TikTok .
Speaker 3I have never had TikTok . Nope , I will never have TikTok . As a matter of fact , let me just explain something .
Speaker 2I don't have Snapchat , none of that crap .
Speaker 3What's that ?
Speaker 2Yeah , exactly .
Speaker 3I will probably watch an episode of the View before I'll have TikTok .
Speaker 2That'd be a tough one . I'd have to really think about that deep .
Speaker 3No thinking .
Speaker 2Now see YouTube . That's where I find out all different shit for me .
Speaker 3Me too .
Speaker 2Fans and stuff . Okay , so anyways , fan engagement Artists are leveraging social media platforms to engage with fans directly , build their brands and promote their work . The rise of platforms like Patreon and OnlyFans in the music space Tom hold up for a minute Also highlights the shift towards direct fan-artist relationships . Go , okay .
Speaker 3Let's go shift towards direct fan-artist relationships . Go , okay , let's go back to this fans , only thing , only fans , oh , only fans . Well , I thought we weren't going to bring up anything like that this is talking about music , though . Okay , well , music's sexual , sexual healing , oh come on .
Speaker 2Why do you got to go there ?
Speaker 3I didn't go there . Lionel did , wasn't that Lionel ?
Speaker 2Lionel , no Marvin Gaye .
Speaker 3Yeah , well see .
Speaker 2Marvin Gaye .
Speaker 3Name says it all . Anyway , go ahead .
Speaker 2He wasn't gay at all Anyway .
Speaker 3Well , he wasn't hurt sexually either .
Speaker 2All righty , Tom . On that note , we'll continue . Indie artists and DIY culture Rise of independent artists . The barriers to the entry in the music industry have lowered significantly , allowing more independent artists to find success without major labor support . Good for them .
Speaker 3Yay .
Speaker 2Tools like DistroKid and Bandcamp yeah , bandcamp , we already heard about them Enable artists to distribute their music and earn revenue directly .
Speaker 3They have wonderful beans .
Speaker 2Yeah , creative Control . The shift has empowered artists to maintain creative control and build a niche audience .
Speaker 3They found their niche .
Speaker 2Not in the corner .
Speaker 3That's an indigent in the wall .
Speaker 2It also requires them to handle more aspects of their careers for marketing and distribution . That's all right . You own it , you run it , you do it , Do it your own way . And again we get back to the royalties and copyright . The issue continues to grapple with issues related to royalties , copyright infringement and the protection of intellectual property , especially the digital age . What's environmental concerns ? Sustainability has become a topic of discussion , Particularly regarding the environmental impact of touring . Merchandise production and physical media Must be that Green New Deal crap again . Overall , the US music industry is navigating a period of significant transformation , Driven by technological advancements , changing consumer behaviors and a broader push for fairness and diversity within the industry . Why is diversity always going to come up ? Just play your music . But you know , hey , I find this shit interesting . I really do .
Speaker 3Yeah , and the next time you buy a ticket and wonder how come you're paying $800 to go see some shit .
Speaker 2Now you know .
Speaker 3Now you know why .
Speaker 2Everybody's got to get a piece of the pie . Poor band probably gets a small percentage of that big price .
Speaker 3Yeah , that's why that one comedian .
Speaker 2It takes us down a different road which I always get into music . But I never looked at the business side of music . I heard stories . This is what got me down this little rabbit hole .
Speaker 3Sorry if I bored everybody , but it's very interesting to me it is interesting , so it'll make me do a little bit more research on who I'm listening to and exactly you know you should , especially those independent bands yeah , yeah , and a lot of them are just independent because Morning Dirty Honey . Yeah , and they're independent because they refuse to make cookie-cutter music like the Enterprise wants them to .
Speaker 2Exactly Well even like the morning they said when they came in , people wanted to change them . Well , let's do this with you . No , we're going to stick to our true selves they didn't need them . Nope , they did not .
Speaker 3They did fine on their own .
Speaker 2People talk . People are the ones who are voting this stuff .
Speaker 3And bringing that up .
Speaker 2I've been in sales , Not some suit in an office somewhere telling me what I've got to listen to .
Speaker 3I have been in sales for many , many , many years and the first thing we learn is if someone is happy with your product , they're going to tell a couple .
Speaker 2And so on .
Speaker 3If someone is unhappy , they're going to tell everybody . They know about that .
Speaker 2That's true . If not write up .
Speaker 3Don't be that thing that they're unhappy about .
Speaker 2See , this is a thing . It goes back to when I had my business . I never advertised .
Speaker 3No , you don't . You don't have to .
Speaker 2Call Mike . Call Mike at KC .
Speaker 3Call Mike at KC .
Speaker 2Oh , I hope Mike comes . Yep , that's me . I'm the one who's going .
Speaker 3This is it . This is the Mike .
Speaker 2But anyways , I think it's time to drag the little dudes out .
Speaker 3Drag them .
Speaker 2Take ourselves a little break , give them a little air time .
Speaker 3It's a bit to be in here . Drag them in . No , you don't . All you guys usually mention little guys . They're already dumping coffee and zipping their pants .
Speaker 2Let's go Wait a minute .
Speaker 3Yeah , I'm not even going to ask . All right , we'll go grab them . Oh don't , I'd be careful , but anyway yeah .
Speaker 4Hey , hey , little dude buddy . Hey , hey , what little dude buddy ? Hey , hey , little dude buddy , what the hell's that sound ? Well , it sounds like a damn Gilligan Island episode . Hey , little buddy , hey , little buddy . Yeah , and I hit you with my hat . You can call me Skipper , nope , oh , okay , anyways , skip across that if you don't mind .
Speaker 4What's with this musical journey these people are on lately ? I don't know . It makes me want to sing , makes me want to play an instrument . No , don't go there . Anyway , yes , thank you . Are you in a good mood ? Nope , thank you . Okay , cool , oh , no , I was answering the other question first , oh , but am I ?
Speaker 4Was answering the other question first , oh , but am I in a good mood ? Yeah , nope , why ? Why would I be ? You don't have to be . But I'm asking if you are , and I told you Nope , then why aren't you ? Why would I be ? Well , why wouldn't you be ? Are we going to do this ? The whole episode ? Pretty much , okay . Why would I be ? Why wouldn't you be ? Nope , that makes no sense . Okay , see , it doesn't make any sense .
Speaker 4You don't have to be pissed off all the time . Oh , well , okay , I had a date the other night . Okay , same damn thing . What happened . You don't have to be pissed off . Oh God . So you're going to be whining ? I ain't whining , sounds like it . I just told you about a bad date . I have a question . Oh boy , this is a serious question . Okay , we all know I'm serious .
Casual Chat About Various Topics
Speaker 4I'm at work . I'm on my machine . I get off the machine , all of a sudden there's lava on the floor . I'm stepping my machine . I get off the machine , all of a sudden there's lava on the floor . I'm stepping in lava . I asked my little , I can't walk here , wait a minute , let me finish . I asked my buddy .
Speaker 4Hey , give me a ride , that's what she said Wait a minute , let me finish . So I said can I get a ride with you ? I'm in lava . He said , no , that's right . Why ? It's a safety issue , that's why . But I'm in lava , well why ? Because it wasn't there . But all of a sudden it was there . Well , that's kind of how volcanoes work . Well , I wasn't warned . They've been there for 16 centuries . All of a sudden I wasn't warned . Oh no , virgin .
Speaker 4Well , what do you think's gonna happen when you don't have any sick Eruption ? There should be signs warning me . There are . Where are they ? The hardening of the tool should be the first warning of an eruption's about to happen . Wait a minute . The hardening of the tool should be the first warning of eruptions about to happen . Wait a minute . The hardening of the tool , yes . What are we talking about here ? Eruptions , oh , I thought you said erections . No , well , that's one of the warnings I'm trying to give you . Ah , yeah , see , there's no warnings . There's no warnings . First warning . You better look out . Eruption's about to happen , okay , but there's no lava . That's what the eruption is . No , that's , that's no , I'm talking real lava . Oh , on the floor . Yes , well , stupid .
Speaker 4You should have stayed on your machine when you're in a video game and there's lava all of a sudden Like that yeah , but why wasn't it there and why wouldn't you help me ? Why ? Okay , so me burning isn't a safety issue what ? No , it's not , it sure is for me . Well , that's because they teach us not to handle the fire extinguisher if we don't train . So you got to have to burn . Sorry , I gotta go outside . All you had to do was put me on the old forks of the machine and just take me out . No , that's unsafe . No , not really .
Speaker 4Okay , have you ever been at a pond that said no swimming , yeah , Okay . So what'd you do ? Go swimming ? No , said no swimming , okay . Well , let's ask you this what if ? Hear me out , what if , okay , a little boy goes swimming , anyway , right , and he starts to drown ? You gonna let him drown ? Yes , why ? Because it said no swimming , okay , why would you want me to pick you up out of the lava ? But I'm kidding , I would definitely save that kid .
Speaker 4Uh , now , oh , now you sound like a true leftist . Switch your mind for whatever somebody wants to hear . Oh , yeah , wait a minute . Have you seen that video of somebody talking in one area to a certain authenticity and then talking to another authenticity , oh , with a different accent . Oh boy , that pissed me off . What a liar , what a frickin' . I'm a sheep in wolf clothes . She has like four different accents . Yeah , personalities , yeah , I know I got more than that , oh my God . Well , she's at this point . She's African American , yes . Indian , yes , indian , yes . We're not sure if that's Pow Pow Indian or 7-Eleven by Beef Jerky Indian . Yet Okay .
Speaker 4And if that's offensive , cut it out . But anyway , I'm not sure , but we're probably overrated . Anyway , we can say anything we want . Yeah , we don't care about those other two . Yeah Well , anyway . Okay , yeah , we don't care about those other two . Yeah Well anyway . Okay Well , that's not good . Anyway , I'm just mad . You seem very uptight . That is what I'm trying to tell you . This makes me uptight to be like this . Why Well , because it's not right . Well then , you should talk about puppies . Yeah , dead puppies are much better . No , no , no , no , no , no , no . Not dead puppies , that song . Think about cuddly puppies . Oh , cuddly puppies . I have one of those at my house . See , now you're all happy . Yeah well , not really . Why she bit me ? Why , well , I guess because she don't like cuddling . So can we talk about something else ? Oh , could you do like squeeze the crap out of her ? Oh , if only I could , I wouldn't have to take her out anymore .
Speaker 1Good , point Hold her over a bucket .
Speaker 4Squeeze her right over the toilet . Yeah , hang her out the window , give her a little squeeze . Don't even have to stop at the park no more . Oh , that's awesome . Yeah , that's awful . That's mean too , yeah , well , especially to me . I have to wash that shit off the side of the car when I get home .
Speaker 4What they doing on the side of the car . Well , if you hold the dog out the window doing 60 and squeeze , it's going to get all over the side of the car . Whoa , whoa . Why are you squeezing the dog out the window driving ? Are you not listening ? Can you not stop ? No , why ? Because every time we stop to park we're there an hour . Why ? Because the dog won't get back in the damn car . Why don't you squeeze the dog when you get out of the car ? I can't catch him . That's why we don't get out . He's got a leash . No , you're not good at this dog thing , are you Listen , if you ?
Speaker 4Jesus , okay , I suppose you're one of them , parents that have your kid on a leash in a damn mall I'm a dog whisperer , by the way . Parents , I want you to tell that is the dumbest damn thing I've ever seen . What's that ? A little kid tied to a leash ? No wonder they think they're damn birdsies or whatever the hell . That's the greatest invention . Yeah , invention .
Speaker 4Let's find something to . Oh , we like S&M . Let's find something that involves the children . Think of it , bunch of perverts . Think of it , bunch of perverts . Think of it as tethering your kid . Yeah , that's better . Let me tether you to the wall and you watch me and Mom over here whip each other Bunch of S&M crap . If you ask me , that's not healthy . When you're in space and you come out of the spaceship , you're tethered . That's fun . When did I go to space ? Not you Astronauts . I don't care if they're tethered or not . If they want to be perverted and tether themselves to some of them , I don't care . But don't do your children like that . They don't have a choice . You're looking at this all wrong and I'm going to end this now . Thank you , yes , maybe not . Hopefully you'll come back with a better attitude . Better attitude , yeah , tether me to the moon , okay , bye .
Speaker 2I gotta tell you those little guys kill me , They'll fight about anything .
Speaker 3Oh , those little guys kill me , they'll fight about anything .
Speaker 2Oh , goodness , goodness , goodness .
Speaker 3What's funny is the one dude believes there's lava in the floor . That's so funny , but anyway .
Speaker 2Oh , yes , well , I think this was another good episode .
Speaker 3Yeah , every episode's a good one when we're talking to these , fine folks Exactly .
Speaker 2I think we're going to be a little different next week maybe , yeah , Discuss maybe some movies and TV entertainment shit .
Speaker 3Discuss . You worried me a minute . I thought we were going to be different than we are , but we're just going to discuss different stuff .
Speaker 2Yeah , exactly . Oh , we might be different than we are .
Speaker 3No , I like I said no the only pronoun I like is she them .
Speaker 2I consider myself fluid .
Speaker 3Let me see them . Boobies oh , you're fluid .
Speaker 2Yes .
Speaker 3Beer . How'd you know I'm fluid too . How'd you know I I'm fluid too .
Speaker 2Sometimes I have leaked but uh , interesting , our little musical , uh business side of things there . What'd you think of it ?
Speaker 3well , I think if okay , as a kid , everybody has this big dream we're big rock stars , and only a few people do it I'm 61 and sometimes I like to believe that like dr hook . They're the only ones that really ever became big rock stars , but uh , because they sang about it , but anyway yeah , I get it . I get it tom I just we're , we're big , nobody yeah , but nobody realizes the heartache and the just sheer defeat and everything . Even after success you've got to find the system .
Speaker 2I don't think I could stand touring . I really don't think I could go on tour .
Speaker 3Yeah , I'd be just gone .
Speaker 2Be gone for months , six months seven months .
Speaker 3You have to change different .
Speaker 2I couldn't do it , it takes a special person to do that .
Speaker 1I need my own bed .
Speaker 2I could be gone for a week or two , but no , that's a different life , so I give credit on that . Some people eat that shit up .
Speaker 3I love being on the road to see all these different states , but do you enjoy all those other ?
Speaker 2states . Well , here's the thing . You're in different states , right ? What do you see that you can enjoy ? You're here Next night , you're moving on over here .
Speaker 3There are upper-class-looking girls that want to sleep with you . That's about all you're seeing when you're touring , wait a minute , what yeah ?
Speaker 2It's kind of a boring tour . Maybe I'm wrong , maybe I jumped the gun . Touring might not be so bad we might want to just try it for six months . Right , right right .
Speaker 3And not jump into the seven , eight-month tour .
Speaker 2No , no , no no .
Speaker 3Let's start off small like six .
Speaker 2Yeah , I agree , I agree . Anyways , folks once again listen to us on Spotify , Amazon , iHeart Player , FM , Deezer All your favorite different platforms Buzzsprout site and our website .
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Speaker 2Okay , anything , yep , what you want to hear .
Speaker 3Yep , let us hear something you want to hear about .
Speaker 2But until next time .
Speaker 3Yes , we always thank God for the gift of gab .
Speaker 2Everyone take care and God bless Later .
Speaker 1Well , folks , that's all the time we have today . I know , I know , and God
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